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america's largest gun rights group says we don't need new laws. chip reid is in washington with that story. good morning. >> good morning, jeff. the national rifle association was silent in the days following the tragedy in newtown. now it's speaking out and reigniting an explosive debate over gun control. the nra says it will not budge from its long-time opposition to gun control, insisting that the only thing that will stop school shootings is armed guards. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and arms security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. i think the american people think it's crazy not to do it. it's the one thing that would keep people safe and the nra is going to try to do that. added that banning particular guns simply doesn't work. >> we had a so-called assault weapons ban for ten years. it was allowed to expire. studies say it made no difference. so if we're looking at things that are effective, let's talk about them. but first let's talk about protecting our kids. >>> the full court press comes from t
america's largest gun rights group says we don't need new laws. chip reid is in washington with that story. good morning. >> good morning, jeff. the national rifle association was silent in the days following the tragedy in newtown. now it's speaking out and reigniting an explosive debate over gun control. the nra says it will not budge from its long-time opposition to gun control, insisting that the only thing that will stop school shootings is armed guards. >> if it's crazy to...
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in fact, the gun laws here are much stricter than the united states. we need to keep in mind that here it is not a right to own a gun. that's not written into the constitution. it's a privilege to own a gun, and i want to give you some idea about numbers and how all of that looks in comparison with the u.s. you have, what, somewhere of more than 300 million people in the u.s., and about 300 million guns. in israel you have somewhere around 8 million. it's getting up to 8 million, 170,000 private individuals are allowed to carry guns. they have to take a test. they have to get a note from a doctor saying they're both psychologically and physically fit. they have to be trained. no one, no private citizen can get an assault rifle. so there's a combination of things that people say work mere, including strict gun laws and security that's tighter than many places in the world. you have to keep in mind this is a place that has dealt with terrorist attacks many years. >> one thing that struck me in jerusalem and strikes a lot of people is you have uniformed s
in fact, the gun laws here are much stricter than the united states. we need to keep in mind that here it is not a right to own a gun. that's not written into the constitution. it's a privilege to own a gun, and i want to give you some idea about numbers and how all of that looks in comparison with the u.s. you have, what, somewhere of more than 300 million people in the u.s., and about 300 million guns. in israel you have somewhere around 8 million. it's getting up to 8 million, 170,000...
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innocenn bystander. 3 the ational riffeeassociaaion is doubling down on its oppooition to any new gun laws &pin the wake of hh connectiiut school mmssacre. following fridays news conference tte n-r-a now says ...they will not infringe on second amendmmnt rightt ... peter doocy... has thh washington. 3 doocy intro: putting police and armed security in schools. is the one thing. thht wiil keep people safe. accooding to national rifle associatton c-e-o wayne lapierre. who arggeddtoday that you pannot legislate orality. because. he says. leggslatioo only works on thee sane. and doosn't stop criminall. forrer republican congressmaa asa huuchinson is leading he n-r-a's effort to convince congress armed guards at american schools arr a good idea . and aid this orring it would be similar to the way the government proteccs air travelers from terrorists. hutchinson ays: "there was intense debate thatton and yet we have a ffderal air to oversee, and which haa provided a deteerent. it has airlines, nd ii's not like -it's an armed camp when yoo ggo & on the airlinees" virginia democratic senator mark w
innocenn bystander. 3 the ational riffeeassociaaion is doubling down on its oppooition to any new gun laws &pin the wake of hh connectiiut school mmssacre. following fridays news conference tte n-r-a now says ...they will not infringe on second amendmmnt rightt ... peter doocy... has thh washington. 3 doocy intro: putting police and armed security in schools. is the one thing. thht wiil keep people safe. accooding to national rifle associatton c-e-o wayne lapierre. who arggeddtoday that you...
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. >> reporter: la pierre was pressed time and again on whether he would agree to one change in gun laws. he refruzed to answer or chanled the subject. he said the gun is a tool, the problem are criminals. david kerley, abc news, washington. >>> in other news this morning, a veteran of capitol hill was laid to rest in his home state of hawaii. in attendance was president obama. a 19-cannon salute was fired at senator daniel inouye's funeral. he died laths week at the age of 88. >>> new insight into mitt romney's failed presidential run. tagg romney says his dad never wanted the top job. he wanted to be president less than anyone i have met in my life, says tagg. he said his father is a very private person who simply does not like attention. >> interesting field to get into if you don't like attention. >>> out in space, a unique holiday show going on. jupiter and the moon will be in con vux in the evening. they're already close together in the sky and bright enough to be visible around the world, even if you're in a big city. >> with a home telescope you can see the moons, the mountains,
. >> reporter: la pierre was pressed time and again on whether he would agree to one change in gun laws. he refruzed to answer or chanled the subject. he said the gun is a tool, the problem are criminals. david kerley, abc news, washington. >>> in other news this morning, a veteran of capitol hill was laid to rest in his home state of hawaii. in attendance was president obama. a 19-cannon salute was fired at senator daniel inouye's funeral. he died laths week at the age of 88....
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there's something called the fundamental law of traffic congestion that establishes that vehicle miles traveled increase roughly one for one with highway miles built. if you build it, they will drive, okay? the only way to make sure that our city streets are moved sufficiently is to charge people for it, to actually do what singapore does, second densest country in the world, and yet you can drive around it effortlylessly because they have that electronic road pricing thing that charges you for using these streets. america's cities are running, essentially, a soviet-style urban transit policy. they used to have grocery stores that would give away eggs and butter at far below market prices, the result was you couldn't get the goods. that's what we do with our city streets. they're a valuable commodity, and as a result, they're the urban equivalent of long lines which are traffic jams. there's no path other than actually making people pay for the cost of their actions. now, we already, of course, pay plenty, and one of the enduring challenges of cities is how to make them affordable. i k
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>> reporter: wayne laperriere was pressed time again whether he would agree with one change on gun laws. he finished by saying the gun is a tool. the problem are criminals. david kerley, abc news, washington. >>> and washington's other major problem is the fiscal cliff and yet no resolution just yet. the deadline for heading off tax hikes and spending cuts is now one week away. congress returns from a short holiday break on thursday and at least one senator expects negotiations to go up until new year's eve. one possibility is a partial deal on taxes and putting off spending for later. >>> also new insight this morning into mitt romney's failed run for the white house. comments coming now from his eldest son. tag romney tells "the boston globe" that his dad never actually wanted the top job and he was reluctantly convinced to run for president. "he wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life" is what tag said, direct quote. he went on to say that his father is a very private person who simply does not like attention. that's a stunning remark, the money, the time, the sch
>> reporter: wayne laperriere was pressed time again whether he would agree with one change on gun laws. he finished by saying the gun is a tool. the problem are criminals. david kerley, abc news, washington. >>> and washington's other major problem is the fiscal cliff and yet no resolution just yet. the deadline for heading off tax hikes and spending cuts is now one week away. congress returns from a short holiday break on thursday and at least one senator expects negotiations...
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and the group vows to fight any effort by congress to strengthen gun control laws. now congressman chris murphy, whose district includes newtown, calls the stance "tone deaf and revolting." >>> a real christmas gift, it would be getting to where you're going on time today. storms are causing major travel trouble throughout the nation. it's not only trying to get through snow-covered roads. rain and wind are grounding flights in the warmer parts of the country as well. >>> and finally, christmas will be a good time to do a little star-gazing. jupiter and the moon will be very close together in the sky and very bright. you'll be able to see them even in urban areas. the star of bethlehem may have been a similar astronomical event. i'm told you have to look to the east-southeast sky. wherever that may be. you'll see a bright silvery star. on christmas night. you can tell the children, it's santa returning to the north pole. >> will we be able to see it? isn't it going to be cloudy? >> we're going to have a few clouds in this part. other folks will be able to see it. >>
and the group vows to fight any effort by congress to strengthen gun control laws. now congressman chris murphy, whose district includes newtown, calls the stance "tone deaf and revolting." >>> a real christmas gift, it would be getting to where you're going on time today. storms are causing major travel trouble throughout the nation. it's not only trying to get through snow-covered roads. rain and wind are grounding flights in the warmer parts of the country as well....
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law and then the chicago la law what difference did it make? >> guest: well, that's interesting to me that's a surprise because a lot of gun control advdvates said, after the decision -- after both those decisions, probably the tsunami i think was the word that was used -- of challenges to gun control regulations. well there have been some, but certainly not been a tidal wave of them and they haven't mostlied anded. here in the district, they passed -- decided on a new set of regulations that still ban assault weapons, and make it necessary you have to learn -- show you know how to use a gun and can store it safely and register it and so on. but -- and there is a challenge to that i don't think has been resolved yet. >> host: there have been at least a couple hundred lind suis across the country, and lind sus move slowly. but almost every one of them upholds the -- >> guest: doesn't seem to be a tidal wave of judges overthrowing gun control regulation because of heller and mcdonald. >> host: you have this new definition of the second amendment,
law and then the chicago la law what difference did it make? >> guest: well, that's interesting to me that's a surprise because a lot of gun control advdvates said, after the decision -- after both those decisions, probably the tsunami i think was the word that was used -- of challenges to gun control regulations. well there have been some, but certainly not been a tidal wave of them and they haven't mostlied anded. here in the district, they passed -- decided on a new set of regulations...
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. >> law enforcement authorities have no new leads in the case and had few to begin with. the drivers of cars in the area have yet to come forward with information. a massive search has failed to turn up any clues in the case. >> we were told by government agencies, well, you have to prove that child is in danger. to us, he's a run away until you prove he's in danger. >> this story had moved from my son was abducted to a conflict with law enforcement of you're not doing enough, you're not running down the leads. >> remember this? i says i don't give a damn about what noreen gosch has to say. >> the police chief had a lot of personal problems and he was tired of the media coming down and bothering him and all of that sort of stuff. >> you can almost go into a state of mind where you don't want to talk to anybody not ever again. >> noreen has not, nor ever has been, a shrinking violet. she will not stay home and cry in her handkerchief. she went out there, aggressively and rightfully so. >> things had not fired through as adequately as first. me and my husband felt we must d
. >> law enforcement authorities have no new leads in the case and had few to begin with. the drivers of cars in the area have yet to come forward with information. a massive search has failed to turn up any clues in the case. >> we were told by government agencies, well, you have to prove that child is in danger. to us, he's a run away until you prove he's in danger. >> this story had moved from my son was abducted to a conflict with law enforcement of you're not doing...
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i did go to law school. in the early 1980's when i got out of law school, i went back to tennessee to practice. i was going around to law firms. there were not that many women in the law firms. i had guys interview me. they would sit me down and say, do you understand you have to try cases? >> [laughter] >> i said that is what i wanted to do and was excited about it. i have clients in the beginning, i would go in to meet them. afterwards, one of my partners would say that they say that was not what i expected. he did not know there was going to be a lady lawyer on this case. but i really liked trying cases. it was a lot of fun. then i was drawn into politics. throughout my career, i have been interested in how to change things for the better. i have been very fortunate to have lots of opportunities to serve. >> you mentioned your mother. your mother died of lung cancer. she was such a force in your life. >> i think it made me very strong because it was very clear i had no one to depend on but me. >> 3 the ol
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law americas here working for his freedom. late friday night as you know we have been reporting on fox news he was released from jail with a police escort and reunited with his dad across the border in texas. the dtwo driving together in ey ma'am knee hoping to be home in time for christmas. he suffers from post traumatic stress disorder. he has been fighting some kind of a stom mag bug but -- stomach bug. he had to go to the hospital emergency room in louisiana along the way. they are awaiting test results to see exactly what the problem is. we will bring you the latest developments as we learn more. >>> the family of an american missionary in guatemala are counting their blessings tonight. she is safe serve ago mission for the church of jesus christ of latter day saints in guatemala city. she was kidnapped last week and held captive for two-days. kidnapers demeaning ransom. the fbi and local police rescuing her and another person we are told. her family's grief now turning to joy. >> don't really know what to doe. my ded was
law americas here working for his freedom. late friday night as you know we have been reporting on fox news he was released from jail with a police escort and reunited with his dad across the border in texas. the dtwo driving together in ey ma'am knee hoping to be home in time for christmas. he suffers from post traumatic stress disorder. he has been fighting some kind of a stom mag bug but -- stomach bug. he had to go to the hospital emergency room in louisiana along the way. they are awaiting...
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he said that he would be in favor of the arizona law that's derided by some as the papers, please, law. and he's against the original dream act. and so those are positions that he will be pressed about as his national profile rises and that he'll have to reconcile if he wants to scoop up a whole lot of hispanic votes and bring them to the republican party. >> host: mr. roig-franzia, the mormon aspect of marco rubio's childhood, what did you discover about that, and can you walk us through that? >> guest: it's so interesting that he has a mormon background at all. and when he was being talked about as a possible vice presidential candidate, some people were saying, wow, could it be an all-mormon ticket? because mitt romney was mormon. that's a little bit of an overgeneralization there. here's the situation. marco rubio was born catholic, grew up in miami, and his family moved to las vegas. they moved to las vegas because he had an aunt and uncle who lived there. his mother's sister. and this is a pattern that we see with immigrants. they follow tear family members -- their family member
he said that he would be in favor of the arizona law that's derided by some as the papers, please, law. and he's against the original dream act. and so those are positions that he will be pressed about as his national profile rises and that he'll have to reconcile if he wants to scoop up a whole lot of hispanic votes and bring them to the republican party. >> host: mr. roig-franzia, the mormon aspect of marco rubio's childhood, what did you discover about that, and can you walk us through...
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skepticism of the gun control laws itself. broader problem and we should address it as a broader problem. >> doug: the players -- >> the players, 2016 factors in. >> a lot of guys are senators and will be worried about the primaries. marco rubio. he could be important. he has b-plus rating with the nra. what does he do? is he for whatever the steps are to move forward on gun control? that could be a problem for him in 2016. on the other hand, if he says with the nra, if they don't move, if there is no move fire department them and he stays with them and builds up his nra rating for the primary, of 2016, given he may be running for president, that may help him in primary. but with this environment, it could hurt him in the general election. that is not just him. a lot of the members. you are a senator from virginia, mark warner. are you going to step up, lead on gun control initiative again? here is somebody will do it. mansion from west virginia. a guy who used a gun in his ads and shot a senate bill, used it as a target. he i
skepticism of the gun control laws itself. broader problem and we should address it as a broader problem. >> doug: the players -- >> the players, 2016 factors in. >> a lot of guys are senators and will be worried about the primaries. marco rubio. he could be important. he has b-plus rating with the nra. what does he do? is he for whatever the steps are to move forward on gun control? that could be a problem for him in 2016. on the other hand, if he says with the nra, if they...
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. >>> this morning on "world news now," pointing fingers while taking aim at gun control laws. the debate reaches a new intensity after the newtown tragedy. >> as the nra and gun rights advocates explain their renewed positions. it's monday, december 24. >> from abc news, this is "world news now." >> good morning. merry christmas eve. i'm brandi hitt in for paula faris. >> i know you're thrilled to be working overnights this christmas weekend. >> great to be in new york. >> you're an l.a. girl in new york and you love the cold weather here. you've seen all the lights and the trees. so you're enjoying the big apple. >> beautiful. >> good to have you back. i know it's tough working the holiday week. thanks for sticking it out with us. >> you make it easy. >> i try, i try. it's the vodka. shut up, willis. good morning, everybody. happy christmas eve again. the debate over firearms will not subside. that's for sure. as the nation celebrates this holiday season, that is our top story. also this half hour, this story kind of really blew my mind here. no one saw this coming. some post
. >>> this morning on "world news now," pointing fingers while taking aim at gun control laws. the debate reaches a new intensity after the newtown tragedy. >> as the nra and gun rights advocates explain their renewed positions. it's monday, december 24. >> from abc news, this is "world news now." >> good morning. merry christmas eve. i'm brandi hitt in for paula faris. >> i know you're thrilled to be working overnights this christmas...
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because of those laws and other laws crime declined. now that these mass shootings seem to be almost the new normal, i think the broad middle will rise up and that will help us. in the last ten years the whole debate has been dominated by the small but militant number 3 million, 4 million nra people in the -- >> as a republican, do you think the nra has the same clout to be absolutist about this, even if it means searching compromise it is may not look and maybe the entertainment industry has to accept compromises it may not like. >> i own an ar-15. the question is if you deny me the right to buy another one, do you make it safer? you try to get murderers off the street by better mental health detection, try to find ways that understands them who they are. i don't suggest we ban every movie with a gun in it and every video that's violent and i don't suggest you take my right to buy an ar-15 away from me because i don't think it will work and i do believe better security in schools is a good place to start. >> would you ban high-capacity
because of those laws and other laws crime declined. now that these mass shootings seem to be almost the new normal, i think the broad middle will rise up and that will help us. in the last ten years the whole debate has been dominated by the small but militant number 3 million, 4 million nra people in the -- >> as a republican, do you think the nra has the same clout to be absolutist about this, even if it means searching compromise it is may not look and maybe the entertainment industry...
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. >> reporter: the powerful gun lobby and its allies insist gun laws aren't the answer. they want more guns in the hands of good guys. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy. >> people resisted having weapons on airplanes. but i oversaw the federal air marshals, and it's a deterrent. >> reporter: legislation will have to waited for the new congress to get settled in, but the debate is already underway. >> trying to prevent school shootings? schools without talking about guns is like stopping lung cancer without addressing cigarettes. >> this problem runs deep and wide. >> reporter: outside of atlanta, gun owners are voting with their wallets, buying up weapons while they still can. >> i don't think it's ever a wrong time to protect yourself and -- and exercise your second amendment rights. >> reporter: but some 30 miles away from the connecticut shooting scene, gun owners were surrendering their arms for cash. it's one of a number of gun buyback programs around the country. this event nett
. >> reporter: the powerful gun lobby and its allies insist gun laws aren't the answer. they want more guns in the hands of good guys. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy. >> people resisted having weapons on airplanes. but i oversaw the federal air marshals, and it's a deterrent. >> reporter: legislation will have to waited for the new congress to get settled in, but the debate is...
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now, sticking to his guns, the head of the nra refuses to back down on his opposition to any new gun laws. >>> plus the countdown to cliff-mas. >>> i believe the president is eager to go over theically for political purposes, he sense as victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> while they're miles apart on the cliff, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle go a distance to say a final good-bye to a friend and a giant of the senate, senator inouye. >>> first at the top of the hour, at least two firefighters were killed after arriving at the scene of a fire. two other fire fighters were also wounded. at this point it's unknown how many shooters were involved. the firefighters were forced to retreat. they were not able to put the flames out. at least three homes and one vehicle are burning. firefighters are calling them a complete lost. the police chief says it's still an active crime scene. we have this from a reporter a bit earlier from the crime scene. okay. that is not the right piece of sound firefighters, again, involved in that. >>> now to the top of the block and the stories we're watchin
now, sticking to his guns, the head of the nra refuses to back down on his opposition to any new gun laws. >>> plus the countdown to cliff-mas. >>> i believe the president is eager to go over theically for political purposes, he sense as victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> while they're miles apart on the cliff, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle go a distance to say a final good-bye to a friend and a giant of the senate, senator inouye. >>> first at the...
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she lives a simpler life now in a three-room apartment in south florida, but she remains ruth madoff, lawful wife of the greatest financial criminal in history. why haven't you filed for a divorce from this man? >> i don't know. it doesn't matter to me. he's gonna die in prison. i certainly don't want to find another man these days. >> he'll probably see this interview. are you concerned about-- >> i was thinking about that. no, i'm not concerned. he should hear it. >> believe her or not, the thousands of victims may have little sympathy for andrew and ruth, but it can't be denied that they, too, are victims of bernie madoff. that's mark and andrew? >> mm-hmm. [tearfully] in happier times. >> they lost a son and brother and will forever carry the shame of the madoff name. >> what he did to me, to my brother, and to my family is unforgivable. what he did to thousands of other people, destroyed their lives, i'll never understand it. and i'll never forgive him for it. and i'll never speak to him again. >> in june 2012, bernie madoff's younger brother peter pled guilty to charges of conspiracy a
she lives a simpler life now in a three-room apartment in south florida, but she remains ruth madoff, lawful wife of the greatest financial criminal in history. why haven't you filed for a divorce from this man? >> i don't know. it doesn't matter to me. he's gonna die in prison. i certainly don't want to find another man these days. >> he'll probably see this interview. are you concerned about-- >> i was thinking about that. no, i'm not concerned. he should hear it. >>...
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lawmakers from both parties are signalling their willingness to tighten gun laws after the newtown massacre, but any change in gun policy will face some very tough opposition from the nation's largest gun lobby, which yesterday doubled down on its call to arm our nation's schools. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security at our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy. i'll tell you what the american people -- i think the american people think it's crazy not to do it. it's the one thing that would keep people safe. >> let's bring in justice correspondent pete williams. pete, the nra not budging on its message from the press briefing that it gave on friday to the appearance on "meet the press" yesterday. their point is that the best issue for the gun control problem is not more regulation, but to have armed officers, trained armed people manning our schools. if past is prologue, where is the nra's next move going forward? >> well, you know, i think that's a good question because past may not be prologue here. the past was that the obama administration saw abs
lawmakers from both parties are signalling their willingness to tighten gun laws after the newtown massacre, but any change in gun policy will face some very tough opposition from the nation's largest gun lobby, which yesterday doubled down on its call to arm our nation's schools. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security at our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy. i'll tell you what the american people -- i think the american people think it's crazy...
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taking on certain roles tip chi held by sworn in officers of the law. it's happening in departments across the country, including in denver. alicia acuna has more. >> we've approximately 45 positions that sworn police officers are doing that civilians could do. >> the denver police department are joining several others hiring civilians for jobs traditionally held by sworn police officers, including crime scene analysis, evidence gathering and lab work. >> part of it is our responsibility to be stewards of taxpayers' dollars and maximize the use of our police officers. >> departments with tight budgets can save a lot of money. if you have a detective who, let's theoretically is making 90,000 and you can hire two people to fill that position. >> but can civilians, even as highly trained match the experience of a seasoned detective. >> it will depend on the training and some of it's done through college educational programs and there's a lot available. >> mary dodge directs the masters of criminal justice program at cu denver. she says highly trained civil
taking on certain roles tip chi held by sworn in officers of the law. it's happening in departments across the country, including in denver. alicia acuna has more. >> we've approximately 45 positions that sworn police officers are doing that civilians could do. >> the denver police department are joining several others hiring civilians for jobs traditionally held by sworn police officers, including crime scene analysis, evidence gathering and lab work. >> part of it is our...
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in a state that certainly has tougher gun laws than, say, a lot of other red states. in a community that seems like it should have been so shielded from this and a season that is supposed to be about peace. >> exactly. >> i think it underlined in so many ways why none of us, are none of us are shielded from this kind of violence unless we force our leaders to do something. >> well, and, again, i think i worry about what andrea mitchell is saying about the concern about whether or not the president in congress has the guts to do something. i would say that it would be one of the most disappointing things i've ever witnessed in my entire lifetime. if we can't make fundamental changes in our gun laws but, not only that, in how we handle mental illness in this country, school security in this country and, also, the pervasive and deadly culture of these violent video games which i don't care, i'll say it, feed into this. feed into almost every profile that we see and literally give these young shooters, these young, male shooters guide posts as to how to commit a mass murd
in a state that certainly has tougher gun laws than, say, a lot of other red states. in a community that seems like it should have been so shielded from this and a season that is supposed to be about peace. >> exactly. >> i think it underlined in so many ways why none of us, are none of us are shielded from this kind of violence unless we force our leaders to do something. >> well, and, again, i think i worry about what andrea mitchell is saying about the concern about whether...
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i mean, in virginia tech there was a clear situation, and we had certain laws in place, privacy laws, that don't allow parents to be able to effectively engage to sort of help in this situation. >> and there were armed guards on campus in virginia tech, just like there were armed guards in columbine. >> i'm not arguing that point. i'm saying how do we get to the solution, and i think just jumping to conclusions here, i think we need a thoughtful process to really resolve this because this was a horrific incident that i think everyone would agree has not and we want to not happen again. >> david winston, thank you for your time today. i appreciate it. >> pleasure. >> coming up next, we're going to get a live report from one of the nation's busiest airports as a big storm threatens to affect holiday travel across the country. plus, the disconnect between states and the federal government when it comes to marriage equality and the supreme court battle that lies ahead in the new year. a >>> the south, the midwest expected to get hit by the end of the week. dave gutierrez joins us live fro
i mean, in virginia tech there was a clear situation, and we had certain laws in place, privacy laws, that don't allow parents to be able to effectively engage to sort of help in this situation. >> and there were armed guards on campus in virginia tech, just like there were armed guards in columbine. >> i'm not arguing that point. i'm saying how do we get to the solution, and i think just jumping to conclusions here, i think we need a thoughtful process to really resolve this...
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i mean like any breaking of the law is bad, tim. you should never break the law. >> an energetic, generally happy kid, mcveigh did not see too much of that joy inside his own home. his parents, bill and mickey, were constantly at odds with one another. >> his parents didn't mesh together very well. >> mickey, i think she wanted something bigger, something better, and just wanted to be free. >> the sisters and tim were put in a very difficult situation when the family broke up. the sisters decided to go with the mom, and she moved down to florida. and tim said, no, i'm staying with dad. >> with my parents, to be completely honest, i can't sit here today and tell you that i truly love them. i know what love is. and i don't think i feel it toward my parents. you asked if there's any men that i loved. i love my grandfather mcveigh. >> ed mcveigh lived just a mile or so down the road and became a role model and constant presence in young mcveigh's life once his mother and sisters moved away. >> ed did a lot of child rearing with tim. and
i mean like any breaking of the law is bad, tim. you should never break the law. >> an energetic, generally happy kid, mcveigh did not see too much of that joy inside his own home. his parents, bill and mickey, were constantly at odds with one another. >> his parents didn't mesh together very well. >> mickey, i think she wanted something bigger, something better, and just wanted to be free. >> the sisters and tim were put in a very difficult situation when the family...
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i love my mother-in-law. i'll put that out there. i love my mother-in-law. i love you. >> gretchen: the best line of the show was -- >> rick: why do you think i don't have a mother-in-law? [ laughter ] >> gretchen: so there you have it. i say screaming kids top my list. coming up next, a special preview of our "fox & friends" christmas special. all of our friends are stopping by, including paula deen. >> clayton: country music star is here with a special christmas performance. first, here is cold beer. ♪ it all started with a cold beer. ♪ in a smoky atmosphere ♪ ♪ a few words whispered in her ear ♪ ♪ can we got on out of here ♪ it was down some back road ♪ in the back seat up close ♪ it's gone by next year ♪ it all started with a cold beer ♪ ♪ i remember that night plain as day ♪ ♪ i dropped the top on my chevrolet ♪ ♪ and i picked her up ♪ i was sweet on her ♪ she was leery of me ♪ i was all arms ♪ he was huh-uh please ♪ do not touch ♪ i thought how am i going to break the ice ♪ ♪ with a girl that so pretty an
i love my mother-in-law. i'll put that out there. i love my mother-in-law. i love you. >> gretchen: the best line of the show was -- >> rick: why do you think i don't have a mother-in-law? [ laughter ] >> gretchen: so there you have it. i say screaming kids top my list. coming up next, a special preview of our "fox & friends" christmas special. all of our friends are stopping by, including paula deen. >> clayton: country music star is here with a special...
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there are a lot of state laws. connecticut had about the toughest laws possible. connecticut had very tough laws . apparently the killer was turned down to buy a rifle because of the background checked. his mother had an arsenal at home. people should be liable if they miss use a weapon. people have these concealed carry weapons. host: democratic caller. caller: i have a couple things here. the fact is that the weapons tingsin the school shoo were bought legally. i have nothing against the so- called assault weapons. i am against the 30-round c lips. it could take two-hand acation instead of just -- two-hand action instead of just one. the amount of recoil is controlled by the power that is put through the shell from the high velocity power. i think there's some things there. even the senator from "meet the press" said there should have been some way to interrupt the shooter. host: we got your point. guest: in this article that i recommend to everybody, he comes out for restrictions in gun shows and the winning period, background checks, etc. these things make sen
there are a lot of state laws. connecticut had about the toughest laws possible. connecticut had very tough laws . apparently the killer was turned down to buy a rifle because of the background checked. his mother had an arsenal at home. people should be liable if they miss use a weapon. people have these concealed carry weapons. host: democratic caller. caller: i have a couple things here. the fact is that the weapons tingsin the school shoo were bought legally. i have nothing against the so-...
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we had a criminal who stole a gun from a law-abiding citizen. unless democrats proposes pose confiscating guns from people who purchase them legally, which i don't think they're proposing nothing they're proposing would have stopped what occurred in connecticut. it is a real problem for us to step forward creating laws out of the air that would have absolutely nothing to do with you stopped what occurred. kelly: richard, do you agree with that. >> well, here is the problem, kelly, with the nra's position. first, they're tone he have did. the public since newtown, or even before turned rather substantially against the idea of allowing assault weapons to be purchased, to allow assault ammo to be purchased. they're factually wrong. the fact is more children are killed accidentally with guns around the house than have been killed in school shootings since 1960 by far. third, you know, it is just defies common sense. people, if you put a guard at a door, what about the other doors of a school? how about the fort hood shooting? the nra had talks about
we had a criminal who stole a gun from a law-abiding citizen. unless democrats proposes pose confiscating guns from people who purchase them legally, which i don't think they're proposing nothing they're proposing would have stopped what occurred in connecticut. it is a real problem for us to step forward creating laws out of the air that would have absolutely nothing to do with you stopped what occurred. kelly: richard, do you agree with that. >> well, here is the problem, kelly, with...
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talking about his state's voter id law. we can double down on democracy. and overcome the rising tide of voter suppression with a higher daughter of voter registration and mobilization and activation and protection. amy goodman: well, today we're joined by a leader of the civil rights movement who risked his life numerous times marching for the right of all americans to vote: 13-term democratic congressmember john lewis of georgia. he was a leader of the civil rights movement who marched side by side with dr. martin luther king. he served as chair of the student nonviolent coordinating committee, helped organize the freedom rides and spoke at the 1963 march on washington. he has been arrested more than 40 times and has just written a new book called across that vision for change. he visited us in our studio, and i asked congressmember lewis about the voter purge in florida, where the justice department had sued to block republican governor rick scott's controversial effort to remove thousands of registered voters from the rolls, using an outdated drivers'
talking about his state's voter id law. we can double down on democracy. and overcome the rising tide of voter suppression with a higher daughter of voter registration and mobilization and activation and protection. amy goodman: well, today we're joined by a leader of the civil rights movement who risked his life numerous times marching for the right of all americans to vote: 13-term democratic congressmember john lewis of georgia. he was a leader of the civil rights movement who marched side...
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to get things done, tax reform, immigration reform, we have to finish implementing the health care law a year from right now, people are going to be signing up for exchanges in states all over the country. >> what do you -- >> we don't know if barack obama is a liberal, moderate, debating that four years, six years. next year, we will know what -- >> a pragmatic. >> an ideologue at times? we will know. >> i'm going to put you on the spot. >> i'm ready. >> mcauliffe. the big race of 2013, which by the way will dominate the washington media market, mcauliffe and cuccinelli. >> going off to -- >> does he win? >> cuccinelli, he wins, 2016? >> the year of 2012, besides barack obama's re-election, the year america got comfortable with gay marriage. nothing think b that is it for this special year-end edition of the daily run down. watch us every week date 9 a.m. here on msnbc. happy holidays. happy new year. be safe from all of us at the daily run down. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [
to get things done, tax reform, immigration reform, we have to finish implementing the health care law a year from right now, people are going to be signing up for exchanges in states all over the country. >> what do you -- >> we don't know if barack obama is a liberal, moderate, debating that four years, six years. next year, we will know what -- >> a pragmatic. >> an ideologue at times? we will know. >> i'm going to put you on the spot. >> i'm ready....
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and before you make any changes in election laws dealing with registration, changing a precinct, local lines for any political position, you have to get pre-clearance from the department of justice or the federal district court in washington, d.c. so, the state of florida, for an example, never sought to get clearance to purge. and they're hiding behind there may be fraud. that's their own. amy goodman: you were on that selma to montgomery march. this. can you explain what happened, as we go back, what, almost half a century now? rep. john lewis: on march 7, 1965, a group of us attempted to march from selma to montgomery, alabama, to dramatize to the nation that people wanted to register to vote. one young african-american man had been shot and killed a few days earlier, in an adjoining county called perry county-this is in the black belt of alabama-the home county of mrs. martin luther king jr., the home county of mrs. ralph abernathy, the home county of mrs. andrew young. and because of what happened to him, we made a decision to march. in selma, alabama, in 1965, only 2.1 percent of
and before you make any changes in election laws dealing with registration, changing a precinct, local lines for any political position, you have to get pre-clearance from the department of justice or the federal district court in washington, d.c. so, the state of florida, for an example, never sought to get clearance to purge. and they're hiding behind there may be fraud. that's their own. amy goodman: you were on that selma to montgomery march. this. can you explain what happened, as we go...
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the national rifle association doubling down on its opposition to any new gun laws. instead offering other alternatives to crack down on gun violence. steve centanni live for us in washington. so, steve, what exactly did the nra president have to say over the weekend? >> reporter: well, wayne laperriere saying there was no more horrible tragedy than that shooting at sandy hook elementary up in connecticut and he understands the grief of those parents and the national mood following that tragedy. that he explained is exactly why he's making his proposal. listen. >> i'm telling you what i think will make people safe and what every mom and dad will make them feel better. when they drop their kid off at school in january, is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy, that if some horrible monster tries to do something they will be there to protect them. >> reporter: even some republican who is support a comprehensive approach to the problem of mass violence are questioning the idea of armed guards in schools. >> if my memory is correct there actually was an
the national rifle association doubling down on its opposition to any new gun laws. instead offering other alternatives to crack down on gun violence. steve centanni live for us in washington. so, steve, what exactly did the nra president have to say over the weekend? >> reporter: well, wayne laperriere saying there was no more horrible tragedy than that shooting at sandy hook elementary up in connecticut and he understands the grief of those parents and the national mood following that...
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back to washington and have it pass both chambers, and i will immediately sign that legislation into law before january 1st of next year. >> reporter: but americans say the uncertainty in washington is casting a cloud over their holidays. >> they are responsible for the well-being of all americans, and right now they're more woern wored about politics. >> i would tell them to get off their butts, because most of us aren't making six-figure incomes and we need every single dime that we have. >> reporter: now, if we go over the fiscal cliff, taxes will increase for most americans. lawmakers will return to washington later this week to resume negotiations. president obama is also expected to cut his vacation short. willie, back to you. >> kristen welker in honolulu this morning. thanks. >>> john harwood is the chief washington correspondent and writing for "the new york times." good morning. >> merry christmas, willie. >> merry christmas to you. eight days until the fiscal cliff arrives and by the time congress gets back it's four or five days. is there any he hope remaining at this point f
back to washington and have it pass both chambers, and i will immediately sign that legislation into law before january 1st of next year. >> reporter: but americans say the uncertainty in washington is casting a cloud over their holidays. >> they are responsible for the well-being of all americans, and right now they're more woern wored about politics. >> i would tell them to get off their butts, because most of us aren't making six-figure incomes and we need every single dime...
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rick scott sent a letter to president obama asking him to invoke federal law in order to invoke a cooling off period. i don't know what the likelihood of that is. i don't know what the president might do. do you think he would -- >> wow. that's a lot of red. >> you step out. you like to step out. you like to make statements, right? >> it's the holidays. >> i'm aware of that. >> you're wearing a red tie today. >> a shirt and a tie. that's usually what i go with, some type of shirt, some type of tie. no bells and whistles. this is your thing. whether you have bracelets -- one of those things is measuring your heart right right now. how is it? >> it's measuring my -- >> your calorie intake? >> my pressure goes up when i'm with you. well, no, this is the jaw bone. >> is it a measure of calories? >> calories, walking, sleeping, rem sleep, how much i shept last night. >> and calories. >> calories. >> if you wore it on your left wrist, would there be less calories, do you know? >> i will test that for you. >> test it out. gasoline prices. you know what i want to ask you? do you employ lobbyists
rick scott sent a letter to president obama asking him to invoke federal law in order to invoke a cooling off period. i don't know what the likelihood of that is. i don't know what the president might do. do you think he would -- >> wow. that's a lot of red. >> you step out. you like to step out. you like to make statements, right? >> it's the holidays. >> i'm aware of that. >> you're wearing a red tie today. >> a shirt and a tie. that's usually what i go...
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already in your portfolio, or will those be exempt and only for the issues that are bought once the law gets changed? >> nobody knows for sure. that brings up a very important point, which is historically, the treasury department has never imposed taxes on anything retroactively. so this would be a very bad precedent if they decide to apply this to existing bonds that are currently outstanding. what they ought to do is apply this, if they're going to do it, on a foregoing basis, the bonds issued after january 1st, 2013, for example. >> we're showing the picture of the mub, the etf that tracks the municipal bond market. we've seen it decline since the beginning of roughly december. i think a lot of people are concerned about this. but your point is, that perhaps if you buy this year, the treasury would not put taxes on those holdings, correct? which could be a good time to buy muni bonds. >> you're playing a gamble on whether or not the treasury is going to protect you for this year or not. personally, i'm a little bit more worried about the fact that the taxes could apply retroactively.
already in your portfolio, or will those be exempt and only for the issues that are bought once the law gets changed? >> nobody knows for sure. that brings up a very important point, which is historically, the treasury department has never imposed taxes on anything retroactively. so this would be a very bad precedent if they decide to apply this to existing bonds that are currently outstanding. what they ought to do is apply this, if they're going to do it, on a foregoing basis, the bonds...
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he also worked in many law enforcement positions. we're told. and he was in afghanistan, working for the contractor company dime corp. international, a major u.s. contractor in the war zone, working to help mentor and train afghan police forces. this is the latest of the so-called insider attacked that have plagued the forces over the past year. many active duty forces killed, contract contractors. 50 deaths this year. they haven't been able to get a handle on it. hala? >> and these attacks have been increasing. what is the reason behind the increase in attacks. >> this is -- they have increased throughout the year, but over the course of the year, ebbed and flowed, thankfully where there hasn't been one in several weeks. the military, the intelligence effort in the military has been to try to figure out the answer to that very question. what is going on. why is this happening? some of them are said to be taliban infiltrations. but there is a sense we're told that many of them are due, how to describe it, to cultural differences. afghans who fee
he also worked in many law enforcement positions. we're told. and he was in afghanistan, working for the contractor company dime corp. international, a major u.s. contractor in the war zone, working to help mentor and train afghan police forces. this is the latest of the so-called insider attacked that have plagued the forces over the past year. many active duty forces killed, contract contractors. 50 deaths this year. they haven't been able to get a handle on it. hala? >> and these...